{"id":9492,"date":"2016-01-29T05:56:48","date_gmt":"2016-01-29T05:56:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/2016\/01\/29\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\/"},"modified":"2016-01-29T05:56:48","modified_gmt":"2016-01-29T05:56:48","slug":"sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/2016\/01\/29\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\/","title":{"rendered":"Sanders Admits Health Care Plan will Increase Taxes on the Middle Class"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href='http:\/\/www.mrctv.org\/blog\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase-taxes-middle-class'>Sanders Admits Health Care Plan will Increase Taxes on the Middle Class<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"link_description\">\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/sharpestrose.tumblr.com\/post\/138051240188\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">sharpestrose<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/sharpestrose.tumblr.com\/post\/138050449968\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">sharpestrose<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/shadesofmauve.tumblr.com\/post\/137839577625\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">shadesofmauve<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/numb3r5ev3n.tumblr.com\/post\/137801561810\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">numb3r5ev3n<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mindgyre.tumblr.com\/post\/137797704135\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">mindgyre<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/lemu.rs\/post\/137794759840\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">leembutt<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/lavenderharmony.tumblr.com\/post\/137792933272\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">lavenderharmony<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/doomy.me\/post\/137791427272\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">doomy<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whytestallion.tumblr.com\/post\/137791185135\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">whytestallion<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/doomy.me\/post\/137601982247\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">doomy<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/communismkills.tumblr.com\/post\/137601034753\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">communismkills<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/laurababora.tumblr.com\/post\/137600940113\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">laurababora<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/communismkills.tumblr.com\/post\/137600360663\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">communismkills<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/t0natiu.tumblr.com\/post\/137599922294\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">t0natiu<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thechurchofbobsaget.tumblr.com\/post\/137593603542\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">thechurchofbobsaget<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/waterboarding.tumblr.com\/post\/137591003019\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">waterboarding<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/communismkills.tumblr.com\/post\/137589421853\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\" class=\"tumblr_blog\">communismkills<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>The only important thing that happened during the Dem debate.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>He is garbage.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>but but but the 1%!!!!!!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Ok hold on, I actually just read the article and it actually seems the people who said \u201coh he\u2019s garbage\u201d or whatever didn\u2019t actually read what they reblogged. <\/p>\n<p>His plan involves increasing taxes, yes, but he\u2019s also planning to do away with private insurance premiums. You\u2019re actually saving money via that plan, so ultimately better off financially. Put simply, private insurance premium going away means all that money back in your pocket. Then, you pay SOME of that money to taxes. Taxes go up, BUT you\u2019re paying less than you\u2019d have paid the private company. So yes, you\u2019d be paying more taxes, but in total your expenses go down by thousands. <\/p>\n<p>Read the things you reblog, dammit.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Uhhhh<\/p>\n<p>You literally admitted he says he wants to increase taxes.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>oh boo hoo, you pay a little bit more in taxes. how else do people expect shit to get done? -_-<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\u2026 Really?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><b>oh no my taxes are going to be more<\/b><\/p>\n<p>and people nationwide will stop suffering from lack of healthcare\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>and maybe ending poverty will take a step in the right direction<\/p>\n<p>and maybe private insurance companies will stop gouging people\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>and hey I\u2019ll actually have a net positive after all this since it saves me money in the long run<\/p>\n<p>and hey maybe we\u2019ll be on par with every other 1st world country on the planet<\/p>\n<p>and hey maybe parents will call the hospital when their kids are sick instead of waiting it out because their insurance rates are too much for them to afford<\/p>\n<p>but<\/p>\n<p><b>oh no my taxes are going to be more<\/b><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Same rhetoric as obamacare. Premiums are up, coverage is down, but hey. At least everyone\u2026.no wait.<\/p>\n<p>Government run healthcare is the biggest croc of idiocy alive today. Medicare, medicaid, obamacare, all failures. All dying. But juuuuuust one more right? This time it will work!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>so what r ur opinions on minecraft?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>So\u2026 The NHS\u2026<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Guys, Sanders is asking for a 2.2% health care tax hike to cover health care costs. If your household is earning $70k a year, that\u2019s $1,540 a year in extra taxes.<\/p>\n<p>There will also be a payroll tax levied on employers of 6.7%. Assuming the entire cost is passed on to workers (and I guarantee you it won\u2019t be &#8211; customers will also pick up part of the tab), that\u2019s an extra $4,690, bringing the total to $6,230 a year.<\/p>\n<p>Obamacare average household premiums were about $16,800 in 2015, and are still rising. <b>That\u2019s at least 2.7 times higher than the tax hike<\/b> (a highly conservative estimate), and will probably be higher as health care costs continue to rise.<\/p>\n<p>You will not need to pay for premiums in a single payer system. <b>You\u2019re literally saving over thousands of dollars a year if you\u2019re a middle class citizen, and even more if you\u2019re a working class citizen.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>There are plenty of other examples of nations that have implemented a single payer system, and their citizens are paying significantly less than Americans.<\/p>\n<p>Do your research before complaining about taxes.<\/p>\n<p>Sources:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncsl.org\/research\/health\/health-insurance-premiums.aspx\">http:\/\/www.ncsl.org\/research\/health\/health-insurance-premiums.aspx<\/a><br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/time.com\/4183856\/bernie-sanders-middle-class-taxes-health-care\/\">http:\/\/time.com\/4183856\/bernie-sanders-middle-class-taxes-health-care\/<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>reblogging for hard numbers<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Reblogging for hard numbers. <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/6oBo8CJxatQ\">This is what George Carlin meant when he said that the owners of our country don\u2019t want an educated populace &#8211; they want people just smart enough to do the shit work, and just dumb enough not to know how badly they\u2019re being screwed over compared with the rest of the civilized world.<\/a> <b>Everyone who whined\u00a0\u201cbut TAXES\u201d and\u00a0\u201che is GARBAGE\u201d is a living example of how this plan is working out for the owners of our society, the 1%.<\/b><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>ALSO. The generally used cut-off for \u2018middle class\u2019 in political debates is a <i>person making $250,000 a year<\/i>. Are any of you even fucking CLOSE to that? \u2018Cause I kind of doubt it. By that definition someone can \u2018raise taxes on the middle class\u2019 and <i>still not raise the taxes of 99% of the people I know<\/i>. So when someone mentions \u2018middle class\u2019, you damn well need to ask what numbers they\u2019re using. It\u2019s totally possible that <i>they\u2019re not talking about and yours at all<\/i>. The tax code certainly makes a distinction between those of us making under $50k and those making over $200k, and so would Sanders\u2019 plan!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I live in Australia and I had to have a brain tumor removed a few weeks ago and I know for a <i>fact<\/i>, because of the research I did prior to my surgery, that if I lived in a country without significantly subsidised health care\u00a0<i>I would not even know I was sick<\/i>, because American doctors do not recommend an MRI for people presenting with my symptoms \u2013 <b>because of the cost<\/b>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I would literally be fucking dying if not for government run health care. Everyone against it can shut the fuck up forever.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>You know what I\u2019m reblogging this again because I am so, so angry.<\/p>\n<p>I know someone in America who takes a half-dose of their prescription to stretch the pills for longer <b>because of the cost<\/b>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve known someone who has <b>died <\/b>because they <b>couldn\u2019t afford<\/b> to legally buy their medication in America and wound up with harmful substitutes sourced from the internet.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>If you are against people like them being helped by taxpayer funds to afford safe drugs of the required amount, you are literally a fucking sociopath and I am disgusted by you.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019m gonna guess that the people who are pissing and moaning about the taxes are those who haven\u2019t ever had to pay their own insurance premiums or health care. I STILL don\u2019t understand how families can pay $600+ a month in INSURANCE ALONE. The insurance that doesn\u2019t even DO ANYTHING but cover CATASTROPHIC care once the deductible and out of pocket max (several thousand dollars) have been met.<\/p>\n<p>I mean really.<\/p>\n<p>I will HAPPILY pay more in taxes so that EVERYONE in the states can get access health care. Getting rid if shitty insurance premiums is just a wonderful bonus.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sanders Admits Health Care Plan will Increase Taxes on the Middle Class sharpestrose: sharpestrose: shadesofmauve: numb3r5ev3n: mindgyre: leembutt: lavenderharmony: doomy: whytestallion: doomy: communismkills: laurababora: communismkills: t0natiu: thechurchofbobsaget: waterboarding: communismkills: The only important thing that happened during the Dem debate. He is garbage. but but but the 1%!!!!!! Ok hold on, I actually just read the &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/2016\/01\/29\/sanders-admits-health-care-plan-will-increase\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Sanders Admits Health Care Plan will Increase Taxes on the Middle Class<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"link","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[869],"class_list":["post-9492","post","type-post","status-publish","format-link","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-politics","post_format-post-format-link","without-featured-image"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9492","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9492"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9492\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9492"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9492"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9492"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}