{"id":7996,"date":"2016-12-15T09:03:57","date_gmt":"2016-12-15T09:03:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/2016\/12\/15\/lemonwicky-jaxblade-cari28ch3-me\/"},"modified":"2018-12-04T09:28:22","modified_gmt":"2018-12-04T09:28:22","slug":"lemonwicky-jaxblade-cari28ch3-me","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/2016\/12\/15\/lemonwicky-jaxblade-cari28ch3-me\/","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-7996 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-thumbnail'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/2016\/12\/15\/lemonwicky-jaxblade-cari28ch3-me\/attachment\/7997\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/tumblr_nscc90XRGC1r43xj0o1_1280-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/tumblr_nscc90XRGC1r43xj0o1_1280-150x150.jpg 150w, http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/tumblr_nscc90XRGC1r43xj0o1_1280-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/2016\/12\/15\/lemonwicky-jaxblade-cari28ch3-me\/attachment\/7998\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/tumblr_nscc90XRGC1r43xj0o2_1280-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/tumblr_nscc90XRGC1r43xj0o2_1280-150x150.jpg 150w, http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/tumblr_nscc90XRGC1r43xj0o2_1280-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt><\/dl>\n\t\t\t<br style='clear: both' \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/lemonwicky.tumblr.com\/post\/130899469544\">lemonwicky<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/jaxblade.tumblr.com\/post\/126835153568\">jaxblade<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/cari28ch3-me.tumblr.com\/post\/125931705870\">cari28ch3-me<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/mymahoushoujo.tumblr.com\/post\/125930590873\">mymahoushoujo<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/rip-roaring-muffin.tumblr.com\/post\/125765400371\">rip-roaring-muffin<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/everyonelovesrobots.tumblr.com\/post\/125526532380\">everyonelovesrobots<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>where is the lie though?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><i><b>It\u2019s a lie of omission.<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p>You\u2019re comparing highly polished mainstream examples of iconic Japanese media to low budget, indie, and amateur american works. If you wanted to be fair the second image should look more like <i>this<\/i>:<\/p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/66.media.tumblr.com\/c652998b8d5636922e75ca68c8487349\/tumblr_inline_oi3mje9BgI1txnruo_540.jpg\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>The cultural exchange between American and Japanese art, particularly in animation, is hardly a one way streak.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/66.media.tumblr.com\/768f835917d6f72b8507ae78696b9075\/tumblr_inline_oi3mjeXYfg1txnruo_540.jpg\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>Here we have <i>Panty and Stocking, <\/i>which boasts an artistic style that draws heavily upon modern western animation with it\u2019s hard outlines and comical proportions. Shows like <i>Dexter\u2019s Laboratory<\/i> barrow dynamic posses, dramatic framing, and highly expressive faces form anime and manga. Early anime and manga developed it\u2019s distinct\u00a0big eyes and childlike features by taking cues from western animation of the 20\u2032s and 30\u2032s<\/p>\n<p>Betty Boop, in particular, was immensely popular in Japan. Her creators even made this short in appreciation of her Japanese fan-base.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-embed tmblr-full\"><\/figure>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>WAIT I CAN ADD TO THIS ALREADY OBSCENELY LONG POST.<\/p>\n<p>The entire Magical Girl genre is a big example of Western (primarily U.S.) and Japanese cultural exchange!<\/p>\n<p><b>BeWitched<\/b> (which was inspired by the 1940\u2032s American movie\u00a0<b>\u201cI Married a Witch<\/b>\u201d) was incredibly popular with young girls! This prompted the creation of the first popular Magical Girl <b>Sally the Witch.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>When the\u00a0\u201cLittle Witch\u201d Subgenre was big in the 70s the U.S. countered with animated <b>Sabrina<\/b>\u00a0(from the Archie comics) which followed the same formula albeit with an older girl.<\/p>\n<p>The 80s we start seeing <i>more<\/i> \u201cflash of light\u201d henshins\/transformations being utilized along with the rise of the \u201cMagical Idol\u201d sub-genre in Japan it gave birth to shows like <b>Creamy Mami<\/b>\u00a0and <b>Magical Emi<\/b>, in the U.S. it made way for <b>Jem and the Holograms<\/b>\u00a0and <b>She-Re Princess of Power <\/b>(not a magical idol but still uses\u00a0\u201cflash of light\u201d transformations). <b>Jem<\/b>\u00a0was even a collab with U.S. doing the writing and Japan doing the animation!<\/p>\n<p>The\u00a0\u201cMagical Warrior\u201d sub-genre emerges in the 90s (even tho it has roots in the 70s with shows like <b>Cutie Honey<\/b>). This doesn\u2019t catch on in America until the early 00\u2032s with <b>Atomic Betty <\/b>(Canadian creation)\u00a0and <b>The Life and Times of Juniper Lee <\/b>but we did see the start of it with the Canadian\/Argentinian collab called <b>Cyber Six.<\/b>\u00a0We also get <b>W.I.T.C.H.<\/b>\u00a0and <b>WINX<\/b>\u00a0<b>Club<\/b>\u00a0in the early 00s from Italy which are both probably the most heavily influenced from Japan\u2019s then current MG show structure.<\/p>\n<p>Today we have <b>Steven Universe<\/b>, <b>Bee and Puppycat, Star vs. the Forces of Evil, Lolirock, The\u00a0Miraculous\u00a0Ladybug, <\/b>and if it gets picked up <b>Twelve Forever<\/b>\u00a0which are all great Western MG shows that are influenced by Japan!<\/p>\n<p>I could go on, I haven\u2019t even scraped the ice berg on this! I have a whole hour panel I run on this subject called\u00a0\u201c<b>Magical Girls from Around The World\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The point is the Magical Girl genre- and tbh animation in general- has been Japan and America (with some other Western countries thrown in) talking back and forth since the 60s. I leave you with probably the most direct influence:<\/p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/66.media.tumblr.com\/44c2960898278124d8190456e2c77df8\/tumblr_inline_oi3mjfyxfx1txnruo_540.jpg\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>can I add to this that Osamu Tezuka aka\u00a0\u201cthe God of modern Manga\u201d<\/p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/66.media.tumblr.com\/0b1de3ee0c23b5cb028564d6e5345460\/tumblr_inline_oi3mjgUBVt1txnruo_540.png\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>was inspired by Bambi\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/66.media.tumblr.com\/cecb8bb3dacee74eb0f6ec741fca79ed\/tumblr_inline_oi3mjg9sK51txnruo_540.png\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>into deciding to give big eyes to his drawings so that they would look more expresive. He also remained a big fan of a certain Jewish American animator until his death, oh yeah this guy<\/p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/66.media.tumblr.com\/fb77fbf7ba7c7649b2ce387099f29e73\/tumblr_inline_oi3mjhlnty1txnruo_540.png\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>Walt Disney himself was also intrested in Tezuka\u2019s work, with Astroboy being one of his favorites. A similar case exists now between John Lasseter (Pixar and Disney fame) and Hayao Miyasaki (Studio Ghibli) who are big fans of each other\u2019s work.<\/p>\n<p>Japan and America are less of a competition to those who work on it and more of an inspiration, it is very often the fans and not the creators who create rivalries between people that would be friends in real life.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/66.media.tumblr.com\/e7a40980e1464b31d939efffd301ecba\/tumblr_inline_oi3mjhsycv1txnruo_500.gif\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>SWEET JESUS HALLELUJAH THIS SITE <b><i>CAN<\/i><\/b> PRODUCE SOME GOOD I LOVE POSTS LIKE THESE.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/66.media.tumblr.com\/5c7d5ea63fa7b662a1b8a1df998a95e7\/tumblr_n8dd03DFxf1tutrx7o1_500.gif\" \/><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>lemonwicky: jaxblade: cari28ch3-me: mymahoushoujo: rip-roaring-muffin: everyonelovesrobots: where is the lie though? It\u2019s a lie of omission. You\u2019re comparing highly polished mainstream examples of iconic Japanese media to low budget, indie, and amateur american works. If you wanted to be fair the second image should look more like this: The cultural exchange between American and Japanese &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/2016\/12\/15\/lemonwicky-jaxblade-cari28ch3-me\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\"><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"gallery","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7996","post","type-post","status-publish","format-gallery","hentry","category-uncategorized","post_format-post-format-gallery","without-featured-image"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7996","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7996"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7996\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7999,"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7996\/revisions\/7999"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7996"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7996"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7996"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}