{"id":10010,"date":"2016-01-04T06:29:21","date_gmt":"2016-01-04T06:29:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/2016\/01\/04\/do-not-trick-people-into-trying-vegan-versions-of\/"},"modified":"2016-01-04T06:29:21","modified_gmt":"2016-01-04T06:29:21","slug":"do-not-trick-people-into-trying-vegan-versions-of","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/archive.gabapple.com\/tumblr\/gabapple\/2016\/01\/04\/do-not-trick-people-into-trying-vegan-versions-of\/","title":{"rendered":"Do not trick people into trying vegan versions of food"},"content":{"rendered":"

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superlology<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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kristen-the-rageful<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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ableist-vegans<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Why?<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s say you make some vegan chocolate chip cookies. (I looked a recipe up for the sake of this post). These cookies are made with almond milk.<\/p>\n

You have a friend that you\u2019ve known for a few months now, and you think it would be nice to surprise them.<\/p>\n

So, you offer them one of the cookies. You don\u2019t tell them they\u2019re vegan. As far as your friend is aware, they\u2019re made with cow milk and chicken eggs.<\/p>\n

Your friend takes one bite, and a few minutes later you\u2019re using their epi-pen on them and calling 911.<\/p>\n

See, what just happened is that your hypothetical friend here has a nut allergy that you didn\u2019t know about, and the almond milk in the cookies was enough to put them in the hospital.<\/p>\n

You could have avoided this whole situation by informing your friend that they\u2019re vegan, thus prompting the question \u201cIt\u2019s not made with almond milk, is it?\u201d<\/p>\n

This doesn\u2019t just apply to cookies. While I\u2019ve never found one, if you happen to know of a vegan fake meat that\u2019s not made with soy and looks and smells exactly like the meat version, don\u2019t serve it to someone and not tell them until after they eat it.<\/p>\n

\u201cBut I, a vegan, would never do that!\u201d<\/p>\n

Great, then this post isn\u2019t about you. This post is about the people who post shit like \u201cwhen you give your friend vegan food without telling them and they like it *insert gif here*\u201d, and it\u2019s also about the thousands of people who reblog it.<\/p>\n

– Avery<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

And some people have dusgestive issues or health issues that conflict with some vegan ingredients too<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Soy and wheat are used in a lot of meat replacements, and are also 2 of the top 8 food allergens.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

And, as mentioned before, peanuts and tree nuts are two more\u2013so, half of the most common food allergens<\/a> are the things used as vegan substitutes. (Which is also why a lot of people can\u2019t <\/i>be vegan.)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Basically don\u2019t tell someone you\u2019re giving them one thing when secretly it\u2019s another, ever <\/p>\n

This goes for vegan food and also goes for stuff like decaff coffee and so on, there are good reasons why people CAN\u2019T eat\/drink certain foods sometimes and tricking them into eating\/drinking something without their knowledge by letting them think it\u2019s one thing when it is another isn\u2019t always a harmless thing to do it can actually put their life at risk \ud83d\ude41 <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Honestly? As a person with food allergies who also does a fair amount of vegan baking (BECAUSE of my food allergies!) \u2013
I think it\u2019s on the person with allergies to ask before consuming something? If you know some food might kill you or make you violently ill, you are not likely to accept gifts of food from people without making sure they are safe.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

The entire premise is that the person is being tricked. <\/p>\n

And the entire post is explaining that you should not trick people into trying something different because it could negatively affect their health. <\/p>\n

Someone brought up decaff coffee as an example, which has been discussed in a barista post as well. Giving anything but decaff coffee to a triple bypass patient could land them in the OR again or worse. In the barista example the patient goes to a coffee shop, orders decaf and is given full caf instead. The same has happened with people ordering soy and getting full fat. So on and so forth. <\/p>\n

So, in conclusion, this is not a psa for people with food allergies. This is a psa for those of us lucky enough not to have them and those near sighted enough to find it difficult to recognize that other people live with them.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

I have food allergies. I usually ask. But here\u2019s something that actually happened once: my dining hall made Salisbury steak with nutmeg, to which I am allergic. I did not think to ask, \u201cHey, is there nutmeg on this beef?\u201d because beef is almost never made with nutmeg. I assumed the smell was coming from the carrot cake sitting next to it, since carrot cake often is made with nutmeg. To put it mildly, I spent the rest of the day in considerable distress. To this day, I have never encountered a recipe for Salisbury steak that calls for nutmeg.<\/p>\n

However, it\u2019s also ridiculous to say \u201cYou should always ask what\u2019s in something!\u201d because sometimes it\u2019s fucking ridiculous. I\u2019m not going to list off all my food allergens to see what\u2019s safe to eat; I\u2019m going to stick to food that generally is safe and google or ignore the rest.<\/p>\n

But say you\u2019re allergic to apples, and you see chocolate cake. You know there are NEVER apples in chocolate cake, so you take a piece. Uh-oh: it\u2019s vegan and applesauce was used in place of eggs.<\/p>\n

If you\u2019re deviating from the standard, LET PEOPLE KNOW.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

I\u2019m gonna reblog this version for the commentary. My sister is allergic to most meat substitutes (including soy) due to her nickel allergy, so she\u2019s one of those people you shouldn\u2019t surprise like this. Please signal boost this.<\/p>\n

Another thing that\u2019s a problem here: Don\u2019t assume you know their reasons. Yeah, there are a lot of annoying hipsters going \u201cgluten-free\u201d for silly fad reasons. But there are also people who really can\u2019t eat it because of celiac disease. Making a \u201cpoint\u201d to the former isn\u2019t worth hurting the latter. Unless you\u2019re an asshole.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

I\u2019ve got Crohn\u2019s Disease. Almost anything in it with fiber (like say vegetables) makes me ill and causes extreme pain in my digestive track. I have to take a 3,000 dollar medicine twice a month to control it. Like soy. Soy can make me sick.<\/p>\n

So yeah. Don\u2019t trick people into eating something.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Even when you do ask, it doesn\u2019t always help. MOST people are forthcoming about ingredients, but I\u2019ve also had conversations like the following:
\u201cHere, try some of this!\u201d
\u201cDoes this have milk in it?\u201d
\u201cJust try it!\u201d
\u201cDoes it have milk in it.\u201d
\u201cJust eat it.\u201d
\u201cDoes. This. Have. Milk. In. It.\u201d
\u201c\u2026.\u201d
\u201c\u2026.\u201d
\u201cActually, I\u2019m not sure.\u201d<\/p>\n

Now with something like this I can (and do) pass, but if this person were deliberately trying to trick me, like if they – say – thought my avoidance of dairy was a fad thing or all in my head? I\u2019d probably take them at their word and pay for it later. My dairy intolerance isn\u2019t a life threatening thing, but for many it IS, and you should never assume you know better. Especially if the food in question is made with something unexpected. That goes for vegan as well as things like low-carb\/paleo foods.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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